Posts by Pete Zahut

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Could you ever really relax in a self-driving car?

by Simon in

i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.

the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.

it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.

Pete Zahut

With all the texting and driving that's going on these days, there are already lots of "self driving" cars.

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How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

by John Aquila in

its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..

i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.

we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.

Pete Zahut

In a hundred years....all new people. Same as what happened between 1914 and today.

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My pic with a WT

by jerryjax99 in

just trying to do laundry when the boyfriend makes me take a pic of me with a wt.

:p .

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How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

by John Aquila in

its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..

i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.

we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.

Pete Zahut

How many years will pass before the world recognizes we were right?

The world isn't watching and as far as anyone recognizing that we were right, it will be a one by one thing. Individual JW's, one at a time, will recognize what others have been saying since the beginning, just like we did.

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

jw
friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

Pete Zahut

Pete Zahut "Unlike the Catholics, they have never come out and formally apologized for the falsehoods and wrongdoings of those who went before them or for the ones they taught or committed themselves."

BY RESEARCH, DO YOU MEAN A 2 SECOND GOOGLE SEARCH LIKE THIS ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope_John_Paul_II

If the Governing Body ever ONCE came out publicly and apologized OUTRIGHT for their own errors and wrongdoings past and present, like the Catholic church did, I could forgive them. Instead when they realize a certain doctrine has become ridiculously wrong over time they don't admit that it never was from Jehovah. Instead they drop it altogether or change it to something as equally unprovable and call it "new light" or "new loving new arrangements from Jehovah " or "clarifications of current understandings" "refinements" or "adjustments" . Not once have they ever simply said "We were wrong and we are sorry for the damage , suffering and inconvenience this has cause so many of you." Instead, they ignore the fact that millions of people spend trillions of of volunteer hours spreading their wrong teachings all across the planet. It's all about damage control rather than sorrow for what they've done. Then they skirt around the subject and continue on as before, finding new ways to manipulate people with half truths and calculated omissions of information.

These men have a form of godly devotion but are proving false to it's power.

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Why BOGUS PREDICTIONS and CHANGEABLE TEACHINGS only strengthen JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

by TerryWalstrom in

today's jw knows less about the history of the watchtower religion than ever before.. there is no need to know.

only the present moment of new light has meaning.. there are too many enemies surrounding jw's to risk learning something faith-weakening.. such as facts.

the watchtower religion (jehovah's witnesses) has been 'getting away with it' since 1874.. setting dates built on false chronology, pyramidology, slanted quotations about world events, and misrepresenting their own authority, (channel of jehovah) is a profitable enterprise for the watchtower org.. how do we know they 'get away with it'?.

Pete Zahut

For example, there was no urgent need for them to talk about all their past errors and mistakes with the Types/Antitypes and Parables, but they made a huge deal about it, and about going through and correcting those views.

To me this was simply a "loss leader" intended to make the average JW see the GB as magnanimous and humble and thus worthy of their continued support. The GB was willing to take one on the chin with this one, especially since this was a doctrine that most JW's didn't understand anyway and would be happy to see being thrown out. Time would soon bear out that these old understandings were incorrect anyway so they may as well make lemonade with the lemons that were handed down to them.

Excellent post....a keeper for sure.

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A possible new and disturbing dynamic of control in JW families.

by Island Man in

we all know that young children are very impressionable and love cartoons.

lately, watchtower seems to be using caleb and sophia to indoctrinate young children into becoming zealous jw cultists.. what if this largely succeeds - at least while the children are still young?

what effect could/would this have on family dynamics, specifically, the the parent-child relationship?.

Pete Zahut

Kids in Field Service with Daddy and Mommy will get a mixed message when they pull through the Starbucks drive-up window and order double tall Cafe' Mochas with extra whipped cream.

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

jw
friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

Pete Zahut

Damned if they do, Damned of they don't

I understand what you are saying as I've thought the same thing myself at times.

All I know is that first of all they have never come out directly and said we were absolutely wrong about doctrine (a) (b) (c) and we didn't get any of that information from Jehovah and what we are telling you now isn't from him either. From now on we are to be looked upon as men who are trying their best to follow the bible as best we can and are here to help you do the same. I could forgive them if they did something like that.

They have never been honest about why they do things such as make big changes in they way they do things. They try to pass them off as loving provisions from Jehovah rather than as a way to fix a big problem they are trying to keep concealed.

They continue tricking people by making videos with very intentional subliminal messages aimed at children and weak minded individuals in an effort to get them to support their agenda and in the end, finance their celebrity lifestyles.

They have intentionally trained thousands of men to seek out, punish and destroy the lives of anyone who voice any of the aforementioned. They are given free license to delve into the personal affairs of those who come to them for guidance after making mistakes in their personal lives.

They condemn other religions for teaching falsehoods yet have done the same thing themselves from the very beginning.

Unlike the Catholics, they have never come out and formally apologized for the falsehoods and wrongdoings of those who went before them nor for the ones they taught or committed themselves. They have never apologized to the families of those whose lives were lost or to individuals whose lives ruined as a result of their bad decisions and misinterpretations or misapplication of certain bible texts, or from their being too proud to admit that they are regular humans who know no more than anyone else.

At this point nothing they can do can make up for what they've done to those who trusted them in the past. Because of the internet and sites like this one, (except for children) those who come into the religion from this point on, for the most part, can do so with open eyes knowing the history of the religion and their tract record. Children will be able to see them for what they are as soon as they are able to use a computer. If they choose to proceed or continue on with it, it's their own choice, they can do so knowing both sides of the picture . For the rest of us, the years of our lives are lost for good . No matter what changes or "improvements" are made, to us this organization can never be "the truth" again. They will never be more than just another misguided bunch of people who tricked us into trusting them.

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I have been blocked!!!

by username in

as the title eludes, i have been blocked from a website, the cheek of it.

what site you may ask?

i was blocked from a active jwforum, i haven't even posted any comments yet haha!

Pete Zahut

Haven't you heard USERNAME ? It's called Cybershunning.....all the kool kids are doing it !

(it's the one worldly trend JW's can get into)

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Brave high school student exposes abuse and corruption within Jehovahs witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.

Pete Zahut

One could say that the experiences she related were extreme examples of what happens in the organization, however you can't help but notice that when they are laid out like this, back to back and in front of non JW's, it really makes what is common knowledge to us, seem even crazier.

These kid's heads must have been spinning and I can only imagine what the teacher was thinking and what he or she will say the next time a JW calls at the door.